{"id":9250,"date":"2009-05-06T04:02:00","date_gmt":"2009-05-05T18:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2009\/05\/06\/inside-a-mini-circuits-mixer-and-the-dissing-of-dsb\/"},"modified":"2025-07-22T02:12:07","modified_gmt":"2025-07-21T16:12:07","slug":"inside-a-mini-circuits-mixer-and-the-dissing-of-dsb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2009\/05\/06\/inside-a-mini-circuits-mixer-and-the-dissing-of-dsb\/","title":{"rendered":"Inside a Mini-Circuits Mixer, and the Dissing of DSB"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjXnYbChA8-G0gCN6lTHA3LWuWMupQU68azIsVdZIO2Y5a6Y13d6igaiYXdar8IzJzQhXVKtsrty-cl4hJcOKfVCEc-kvKxlNN-fPAPe43h8gG4LbYGRqDOUvCIIOFGVUTeYfB0axuhnxo\/s1600-h\/SBL-1mixer-inside.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 197px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/SBL-1mixer-inside.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5332556841186585954\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>I&#8217;m not crazy about using integrated circuits, especially the really complex ones for which true understanding of how they work is impossible. The Mini-Circuits mixers are not, of course ICs, but for me they too have always had a whiff of the &#8220;black-box&#8221; about them. Thomas, OZ2CPU, pulls away the veil with this photo of the innards of an SBL-1. <\/p>\n<p>I came across Thomas&#8217;s very interesting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.webx.dk\/oz2cpu\/\">web site<\/a> when I was installing in my QRSS beacon rig the SBL-1 mixer sent to me by Jim, AL7RV. That poor SBL had died suddenly during testing. Thomas alerted me to the cause of death: In his caption for the picture of the innards, he notes, <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8220;I was unlucky to kill this one during my first transmit experiment. The IF input can NOT accept more than +20dBm audio level.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjEDwwF2k78C7ZC9wNNnxD-OQ3GW014-dydAzAYJtVljj-lozsDqw-cfTijQzJDpidPbGMazD2fvRweqlsq4yziUy_JqcqNV_RhyOlfY1oj4kcU_EHxliJo2SvVSBggfRHV8yf7kS_6GkI\/s1600-h\/SBLschematic.JPG\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 98px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/SBLschematic.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5332560934417310210\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>Joop and I have been discussing diode ring mixers, and I&#8217;ve been reading an article about them by Paul, NA5N. It looks to me like the designers of the SBL mixers weren&#8217;t really thinking of balanced modulators when they created these things. Just look at the schematic above. In a normal receiver application, LO energy goes in from the L port, your RF goes in R, and your IF (or, in a DC receiver, your AF) comes out from the I port. But when we use these things as balanced modulators, we have to put the Audio INTO the I port. You can see how too much voltage on that port would quickly release the smoke from those little hot-carrier diodes.<\/p>\n<p>The data sheets are oriented to the standard application (RF into R, LO into L, IF output at I). We are told to keep the LO level at +7dBm and that the 1 db compression point for the RF input is +1dBm. But at what level should you put the AF input to the I port if you are using this thing as a balanced modulator in a weird WSPR DSB rig? Similarly, the data sheets give SWR data across a wide frequency range for the L and R ports&#8230; but not for the I port. DSB is getting dissed!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m not crazy about using integrated circuits, especially the really complex ones for which true understanding of how they work is impossible. The Mini-Circuits mixers are not, of course ICs, but for me they too have always had a whiff of the &#8220;black-box&#8221; about them. Thomas, OZ2CPU, pulls away the veil with this photo of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2009\/05\/06\/inside-a-mini-circuits-mixer-and-the-dissing-of-dsb\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Inside a Mini-Circuits Mixer, and the Dissing of DSB&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9250","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mixer-theory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9250","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9250"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9250\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9253,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9250\/revisions\/9253"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9250"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9250"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9250"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}