{"id":7085,"date":"2021-03-22T14:30:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-22T03:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2021\/03\/22\/my-hodgepodged-morse-audio-tone-into-the-mic-jack-creates-j2a-not-a1a-basta\/"},"modified":"2025-07-21T22:13:20","modified_gmt":"2025-07-21T12:13:20","slug":"my-hodgepodged-morse-audio-tone-into-the-mic-jack-creates-j2a-not-a1a-basta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2021\/03\/22\/my-hodgepodged-morse-audio-tone-into-the-mic-jack-creates-j2a-not-a1a-basta\/","title":{"rendered":"My Hodgepodged Morse:  Audio Tone into the Mic Jack Creates J2A not A1A. BASTA!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/DosEquisManCWMeme.jpg\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"627\" data-original-width=\"500\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/DosEquisManCWMeme.jpg\" width=\"360\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In <a href=\"https:\/\/soldersmoke.blogspot.com\/2021\/03\/soldersmoke-podcast-229-g2nj-trophy-sdr.html\">SolderSmoke podcast #229<\/a> Pete and I were discussing my rather flaky effort to turn the Hodgepodge BITX40 Module into a CW rig by injecting keyed 700 Hz audio into the mic jack (see video below). We got some very helpful responses from ND6T and VK2EMU: <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>Hi Bill,<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>You mentioned generating CW by modulating SSB: Collins did that in their<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>first SSB transceivers, I believe, as did SGC, but the results were less<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>than optimal. The problem is that you are involving the audio chain and<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>modulator. You know from experience how difficult it is to maintain low<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>intermod there and the tone is no exception. So we end up with lots of<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>spurs within the filter passband and then also have the opposite<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>sideband suppression less than perfect. If you check your transmitted<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>signal with a spectrum analyzer or SDR you can easily see the nasties.<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>Listening to a CW signal thus generated makes it obvious unless it is<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>buried way down in the noise. It IS a valid CW signal (not MCW) since it<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>is (almost) a single signal. However, in actual operation it doesn&#8217;t<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>work very well.<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>I know because I have done that. I bought one of Farhan&#8217;s original<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>BITX40 boards and wanted to put it on CW. I ended up injecting a keyed<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>signal from one of the spare clocks on the Si5351 into the RF amplifier<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>chain (thus avoiding the above stated problems) but still had garbage<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>from the audio and IF stages. I fixed that by shorting out that signal<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>during transmit by a transistor to ground. That was documented on your<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>BITXhacks website: <a href=\"http:\/\/bitxhacks.blogspot.com\/2017\/02\/\" style=\"color: #196ad4;\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/bitxhacks.blogspot.com\/2017\/02\/ <\/a>and on my<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>website: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nd6t.com\/bitx\/CW.htm\" style=\"color: #196ad4;\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.nd6t.com\/bitx\/CW.htm <\/a>. It has been a while, eh?<br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<p><b><span face=\"\"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><b>&#8230;<\/b><\/div>\n<p><span face=\"\"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><b>Don, ND6T<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"\"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545;\"><b>Hi Bill and Pete,<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 19.1px;\"><b><span><\/span><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>With putting an audio oscillator into you hodgepodge radio, your transmission is not the same as a standard CW rig.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 19.1px;\"><b><span><\/span><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>If we have a transmitter as described in the ARRL handbooks from the 1940&#8217;s or 1950&#8217;s, (or even the Michigan Mighty Mite) it is a crystal oscillator and maybe a PA tube. By keying either the oscillator and\/or the final PA on and off, then we can send Morse code as ICW Interrupted Continues Wave. If we check the list of emission designators, we have A1A.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 19.1px;\"><b><span><\/span><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>However, if we feed a tone into a SSB transmitter, then we have J2A.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 19.1px;\"><b><span><\/span><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>At the other end it may sound the same, but because it is created in a different way, it has a different designation. <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 19.1px;\"><b><span><\/span><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>A quick look at Part 97 shows that J2A and J2B are classed as CW, so you are in the clear. However, if you put a tone oscillator into an AM signal to send CW, then that would be classed as A2A and not classed as CW, but as MCW. MCW can be used on 6 meters and above, but not HF.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b><br \/><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>SITS.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 19.1px;\"><b><span><\/span><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>73 de Peter VK2EMU<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b><br \/><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><\/p>\n<p> <iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"247\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5k9vaioX3OU\" title=\"YouTube video player\" width=\"440\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b>So I say BASTA with the J2A! If I want to go CW, it&#8217;s all A1A for me. I dusted off my Fish Soup 10 and am now back on 40 CW with 200 mW&#8230;. A1A all the way! <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"background-color: white; color: #454545; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;\"><span><b> <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In SolderSmoke podcast #229 Pete and I were discussing my rather flaky effort to turn the Hodgepodge BITX40 Module into a CW rig by injecting keyed 700 Hz audio into the mic jack (see video below). We got some very helpful responses from ND6T and VK2EMU: Hi Bill, You mentioned generating CW by modulating SSB: &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2021\/03\/22\/my-hodgepodged-morse-audio-tone-into-the-mic-jack-creates-j2a-not-a1a-basta\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Hodgepodged Morse:  Audio Tone into the Mic Jack Creates J2A not A1A. 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