{"id":690,"date":"2011-10-09T22:28:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-09T11:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2011\/10\/09\/carl-sagan-on-the-meta-seti-results\/"},"modified":"2025-07-21T10:00:52","modified_gmt":"2025-07-21T00:00:52","slug":"carl-sagan-on-the-meta-seti-results","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2011\/10\/09\/carl-sagan-on-the-meta-seti-results\/","title":{"rendered":"Carl Sagan on the META (SETI) Results"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/metactrl.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 318px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/metactrl.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5661623717928948450\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">Project META&#8217;s Control Room<\/span><\/div>\n<p>I mentioned this in Ppodcast #138 and wanted to provide more info. Here are the relevant paragraphs from Sagan&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Pale Blue Dot.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Of course, there&#8217;s a background level of radio noise from Earth-radio<br \/>and television stations, aircraft, portable telephones, nearby and more<br \/>distant spacecraft. Also, as with all radio receivers, the longer you<br \/>wait, the more likely it is that there&#8217;ll be some random fluctuation in<br \/>the electronics so strong that it generates a spurious signal. So we<br \/>ignore anything that isn&#8217;t much louder than the background.<br \/> Any strong narrow-band signal that remains in a single channel we take<br \/>very seriously. As it logs in the data, META automatically tells the human<br \/>operators to pay attention to certain signals. Over five years we made<br \/>some 60 trillion observations at various frequencies, while examining the<br \/>entire accessible sky. A few dozen signals survive the culling. These are<br \/>subjected to further scrutiny, and almost all of them are rejected-for<br \/>example, because an error has been found by fault-detection<br \/>microprocessors that examine the signal-detection microprocessors.<br \/> What&#8217;s left-the strongest candidate signals after three surveys of the<br \/>sky-are 11 &#8220;events.&#8221; They satisfy all but one of our criteria for a<br \/>genuine alien signal. But the one failed criterion is supremely important:<br \/>Verifiability. We&#8217;ve never been able to find any of them again. We look<br \/>back at that part of the sky three minutes later and there&#8217;s nothing<br \/>there. We look again the following day: nothing. Examine it a year later,<br \/>or seven years later, and still there&#8217;s nothing.<br \/> It seems unlikely that every signal we get from alien civilizations<br \/>would turn itself off a couple of minutes after we begin listening, and<br \/>never repeat. (How would they know we&#8217;re paying attention?) But, just<br \/>possibly, this is the effect of twinkling. Stars twinkle because parcels<br \/>of turbulent air are moving across the line of sight between the star and<br \/>us. Sometimes these air parcels act as a lens and cause the light rays<br \/>from a given star to converge a little, making it momentarily brighter.<br \/>Similarly, astronomical radio sources may also twinkle-owing to clouds of<br \/>electrically charged (or &#8220;ionized&#8221;) gas in the great near-vacuum between<br \/>the stars. We observe this routinely with pulsars.<br \/> Imagine a radio signal that&#8217;s a little below the strength that we<br \/>could otherwise detect on Earth. Occasionally the signal will by chance be<br \/>temporarily focused, amplified, and brought within the detectability range<br \/>of our radio telescopes. The interesting thing is that the lifetimes of<br \/>such brightening, predicted from the physics of the interstellar gas, are<br \/>a few minutes-and the chance of reacquiring the signal is small. We should<br \/>really be pointing steadily at these coordinates in the sky, watching them<br \/>for months.<br \/> Despite the fact that none of these signals repeats, there&#8217;s an<br \/>additional fact about them that, every time I think about it, sends a<br \/>chill down my spine: 8 of the 11 best candidate signals lie in or near the<br \/>plane of the Milky Way Galaxy. The five strongest are in the<br \/>constellations Cassiopeia, Monoceros, Hydra, and two in Sagittarius-in the<br \/>approximate direction of the center of the Galaxy. The Milky Way is a<br \/>flat, wheel-like collection of gas and dust and stars. Its flatness is why<br \/>we see it as a band of diffuse light across the night sky. That&#8217;s where<br \/>almost all the stars in our galaxy are. If our candidate signals really<br \/>were radio interference from Earth or some undetected glitch in the<br \/>detection electronics, we shouldn&#8217;t see them preferentially when we&#8217;re<br \/>pointing at the Milky Way.<br \/> But maybe we had an especially unlucky and misleading run of<br \/>statistics. The probability that this correlation with the galactic plane<br \/>is due merely to chance is less than half a percent. Imagine a wall-size<br \/>map of the sky, ranging from the North Star at the top to the fainter<br \/>stars toward which the Earth&#8217;s south pole points at the bottom. Snaking<br \/>across this wall map are the irregular boundaries of the Milky Way. Now<br \/>suppose that you were blindfolded and asked to throw five darts at random<br \/>at the map (with much of the southern sky, inaccessible from<br \/>Massachusetts, declared off limits). You&#8217;d have to throw the set of five<br \/>darts more than 200 times before, by accident, you got them to fall as<br \/>closely within the precincts of the Milky Way as the five strongest META<br \/>signals did. Without repeatable signals, though, there&#8217;s no way we can<br \/>conclude that we&#8217;ve actually found extraterrestrial intelligence.<br \/> Or maybe the events we&#8217;ve found are caused by some new kind of<br \/>astrophysical phenomenon, something that nobody has thought of yet, by<br \/>which not civilizations, but stars or gas clouds (or something) that do<br \/>lie in the plane of the Milky Way emit strong signals in bafflingly narrow<br \/>frequency bands.<br \/> Let&#8217;s permit ourselves, though, a moment of extravagant speculation.<br \/>Let&#8217;s imagine that all our surviving events are in fact due to radio<br \/>beacons of other civilizations. Then we can estimate-from how little time<br \/>we&#8217;ve spent watching each piece of sky-how many such transmitters there<br \/>are in the entire Milky Way. The answer is something approaching a<br \/>million. If randomly strewn through space, the nearest of them would be a<br \/>few hundred light years away, too far for them to have picked up our own<br \/>TV or radar signals yet. They would not know for another few centuries<br \/>that a technical civilization has emerged on Earth. The Galaxy would be<br \/>pulsing with life and intelligence, but-unless they&#8217;re busily exploring<br \/>huge numbers of obscure star systems-wholly oblivious of what has been<br \/>happening down here lately. A few centuries from now, after they do hear<br \/>from us, things might get very interesting. Fortunately, we&#8217;d have many<br \/>generations to prepare.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Our book: &#8220;SolderSmoke &#8212; Global Adventures in Wireless Electronics&#8221;<a href=\"http:\/\/soldersmoke.com\/book.htm\">http:\/\/soldersmoke.com\/book.htm<\/a>Our coffee mugs, T-Shirts, bumper stickers: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cafepress.com\/SolderSmoke\">http:\/\/www.cafepress.com\/SolderSmoke<\/a>Our Book Store: <a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/contracross-20\">http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/contracross-20<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Project META&#8217;s Control Room I mentioned this in Ppodcast #138 and wanted to provide more info. Here are the relevant paragraphs from Sagan&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Pale Blue Dot.&#8221; &#8220;Of course, there&#8217;s a background level of radio noise from Earth-radioand television stations, aircraft, portable telephones, nearby and moredistant spacecraft. Also, as with all radio receivers, the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2011\/10\/09\/carl-sagan-on-the-meta-seti-results\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Carl Sagan on the META (SETI) Results&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":691,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,111],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-690","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-radio-astronomy","category-seti"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/690","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=690"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/690\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":692,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/690\/revisions\/692"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/691"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=690"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=690"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=690"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}