{"id":4328,"date":"2021-12-28T10:07:00","date_gmt":"2021-12-27T23:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2021\/12\/28\/how-to-fix-the-spur-problem-in-my-17-meter-ssb-transmitter\/"},"modified":"2025-07-22T18:04:05","modified_gmt":"2025-07-22T08:04:05","slug":"how-to-fix-the-spur-problem-in-my-17-meter-ssb-transmitter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2021\/12\/28\/how-to-fix-the-spur-problem-in-my-17-meter-ssb-transmitter\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Fix the Spur Problem in my 17 Meter SSB Transmitter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/a\/AVvXsEg7aAirUuJayCrdHZM2BiqkSCwpCxfG5gtdSqtPlcH9k8Ag0sri4h-As968ufRQWNe214gwh5K5ps03dcusd2rrdVCne4bjHHWVMm57NMx2lYUuzvkLGw77s9r-wMH--u_jURhdl7s9uuhj3p5TVyYVKJQnCN81OxpO2O10pAPlztubsC6kXTpyilRU=s3184\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1630\" data-original-width=\"3184\" height=\"205\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image_1753081020.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>I built the transmitter almost 20 years ago. It is in the larger box, which originally housed a Heathkit DX-40. There is a lot of soul in that old machine. Details on this construction project are here: <a href=\"https:\/\/soldersmoke.blogspot.com\/2021\/12\/junk-box-sideband-from-azores-2004-qst.html\">https:\/\/soldersmoke.blogspot.com\/2021\/12\/junk-box-sideband-from-azores-2004-qst.html<\/a> <\/b><b>(The smaller box is a Barebones Superhet receiver set up for 17 meters.) <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>In the 2004 QST article I discuss a problem I had with &#8220;spotting&#8221; or &#8220;netting.&#8221; This is something of a lost art, something that you had to do back in the pre-transceiver days, when running a separate transmitter and receiver. This was how you got the transmitter on the receiver&#8217;s frequency. Essentially you would turn on the carrier oscillator and the VFO and let a little signal get out, enough to allow you to tune the VFO until you heard zero beat on the receiver. My problem was that around one particular frequency, I would hear several zero-beats. This made netting the receiver and the transmitter hard to do. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Important note: This is really just a problem with the &#8220;netting&#8221; or &#8220;spotting&#8221; procedure &#8212; the problematic spur does <u>not<\/u> show up in any significant way in the output of the transmitter. I can&#8217;t see it on my TinySA. But it is strong enough to be heard in the unmuted receiver sitting right next to the transmitter. And that creates the netting problem. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>In the QST article, I said that I noticed that the problem seemed to be centered around 18.116 MHz. As I approached this frequency, the tones &#8212; desired and unwanted &#8212; seemed to converge. That was an important clue. In the article I said I thought that I could eliminate the problem with just one trimmer cap to ground in the carrier oscillator, but looking back I don&#8217;t think that this really fixed the problem. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>I recently took a fresh look at it. Exactly which frequencies were causing the unwanted signals that appeared in my receiver? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>I used an Excel Spread sheet to find the culprits. <\/b><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgiMwpuIDDGjp44TIQc3gSY7fNidaBgu7ZgsBqvNCXxtNQbmV9xP4Op4GTxarxys-HSCqUxgdW4CA0n4461cEIf3ci16E4aLee1gOHbNo-7LFb1LBntRvlg4KLcXJJF7r2S6laP8a6sVmI\/\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" data-original-height=\"207\" data-original-width=\"216\" height=\"384\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image.png\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>The first column shows the carrier oscillator and its harmonics. The second column shows the VFO when tuned for a signal at 18.11668 MHz (23.2927-5.17602), along with its harmonics. Check out the 10th harmonic of the carrier oscillator and the third harmonic of the VFO: 69.8781-51.7602 = 18.1179. Those two harmonics would produce the problem I had been experiencing. <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>I turned to one of Wes Hayward&#8217;s programs for confirmation. Spurtune08 came in the EMRFD software package. Here is what I saw when I plugged in the above frequencies: <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/a\/AVvXsEgxO6x0LgRpHpThzfkJno1-LWC83VqR7sM-MJGdI8Fq4h-sbx4XirkWsrv_-Gvk0CYv4XFyw8eadnH3yehIJpDxmPR7Oj-13iCxxSOZv4gb3Va08BmlaeF3NFXTMfJ2Tz3Cco3qA9p5NDIIf5BDoiaVr_s2noYnQC3qI_O9Oy7JqU9edxKb8yIJ_MZ0=s764\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"566\" data-original-width=\"764\" height=\"296\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image_1753081028.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>You can see the little spur off to the left of the main signal. In the program, as I tune the 23 MHz VFO frequency, the spur moves closer to the main frequency as I approach 18.116 MHz, just as it does in the real rig. Note that I have only turned on the 10th harmonic of the carrier oscillator and the 3rd harmonic of the VFO. Spurtune08 is very useful. Thanks Wes! <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>So, what is to be done? For now, I am just restricting my operations on 17 meters to above 18.120 MHz. (I worked several DX stations with it on December 27.) But obviously I need to fix this. This rig needs an exorcism. I think I only need to get rid of one of the harmonics, and the 10th harmonic of the carrier oscillator seems easier to kill. I&#8217;m thinking of putting the carrier oscillator in an Altoids box, and then adding some filters to knock down the 10th harmonic. <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>Here is the G3YCC schematic that inspired this rig. I used G3YCC&#8217;s carrier oscillator and balanced modulator circuits, just using a 5.176 MHz crystal and changing the tank circuit in the collector: <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/a\/AVvXsEg_-KEsW9bvGe83jBlZ_FS5ESetgc9zCbgzGB6hXK9H-MLWNJwBWzfgHmUk4Hki3eEY3GiyFz6NSOSHjzcUCI3mctLofISl6YK0zfhn_-loOu25pNMQ1k95lf6nYZZfn3HNdx0OR_a7pHgN8IEq9MUPvHIsJ0o0kFs9ebEDcsWnxWZg3r0rGMdPP2lg=s635\" style=\"font-weight: bold; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"461\" data-original-width=\"635\" height=\"290\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image_1753081023.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><b><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">How would you folks knock down that 10th harmonic? <\/div>\n<p><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/a\/AVvXsEjIDyMuGqge1A6M0b0cGBLVlt-VNUhinHt1ef8Qcgn0fn_LzTcjunZ9QDuIg-qY2tZMv4zo2Zx-fCDEowZ_gPvp-5J17c8W8-3Lw-O1Nwqw0QBhU8HpwTVZLB8gQI8qPtvs7x_44sSmz7w2NXF_iIX66sK5jrCknCiNEfLa-nn5ATi-9ts_K09tBzMD=s3129\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1405\" data-original-width=\"3129\" height=\"180\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image_1753081025.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I built the transmitter almost 20 years ago. It is in the larger box, which originally housed a Heathkit DX-40. There is a lot of soul in that old machine. Details on this construction project are here: https:\/\/soldersmoke.blogspot.com\/2021\/12\/junk-box-sideband-from-azores-2004-qst.html (The smaller box is a Barebones Superhet receiver set up for 17 meters.) In the 2004 QST &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2021\/12\/28\/how-to-fix-the-spur-problem-in-my-17-meter-ssb-transmitter\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;How to Fix the Spur Problem in my 17 Meter SSB Transmitter?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":4329,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[44,292,94,60,17,23,25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4328","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-17-meters","category-dx-40","category-emrfd","category-hayward-wes","category-sprat","category-ssb","category-troubleshooting"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4328","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4328"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4328\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4333,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4328\/revisions\/4333"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4329"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4328"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4328"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4328"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}