{"id":10816,"date":"2022-11-21T10:44:00","date_gmt":"2022-11-20T23:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2022\/11\/21\/a-homebrew-lm386-does-anyone-want-to-build-it-help-save-us-all-from-the-indignity-of-ics\/"},"modified":"2025-07-22T18:02:55","modified_gmt":"2025-07-22T08:02:55","slug":"a-homebrew-lm386-does-anyone-want-to-build-it-help-save-us-all-from-the-indignity-of-ics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2022\/11\/21\/a-homebrew-lm386-does-anyone-want-to-build-it-help-save-us-all-from-the-indignity-of-ics\/","title":{"rendered":"A Homebrew LM386 &#8212; Does Anyone Want to Build It?  Help Save Us All from the Indignity of ICs!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/LM38620SNIP.png\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"439\" data-original-width=\"1629\" height=\"108\" src=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/LM38620SNIP.png\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>I recently commented that I was building a discrete LM386 for a Direct Conversion receiver. I think I was exaggerating my project. In fact I just built a very ordinary push-pull amplifier using a 2N3904 and a 2N3906 as a complementary pair AF amplifier. This is part of an LM386, but there is much more inside that little chip. Dave went much further. His schematic is above. <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>Here is link to a higher definition image: <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b><a href=\"goog_628312022\"><br \/><\/a><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/soldersmoke.com\/homebrewLM386.jpg\">http:\/\/soldersmoke.com\/homebrewLM386.jpg<\/a><\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b> <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><b>Dave writes: <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span face=\"\"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-size: 13px;\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span face=\"\"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-size: 13px;\"><b>Hello Bill &#8211;<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;\">\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>Please find enclosed the LT spice circuit for the small audio amp that I developed. I have included numerous notes on the schematic as to component function, suggested values to tweak, etc. <br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>My intention was to come up with a relatively low parts-count design while adhering to the classic three-stage topology [diff pair \/ voltage amp \/ voltage follower] that has been used as the basis for so many audio power amplifiers for decades. I&#8217;m sure some of the parts could be eliminated at the risk of possible stability issues, but a lot of that also depends on proper layout, length of speaker leads, speaker load impedance, etc.<\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>In any case I thought it would be great if someone wanted to build up this design to see if it works in real life or whether any serious mods are needed to get it to behave (I have no illusion that the spice models are entirely accurate, nor is my analysis thorough).<\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>It should be capable of at least 500mW into an 8 ohm load at 9VDC supply, and over a watt at 12VDC. It should handle a 4 ohm load although at reduced voltage swing on the output, and with increased output transistor heat dissipation requirements. <br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>The output stage is a complimentary compound (&#8220;sziklai&#8221;) pair which should, in theory, maximize voltage swing from a low supply voltage (as compared to the more traditional complimentary Darlington configuration. <br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>The bias current is set by a fixed pair of resistors and could be quite different from the simulated value, so I would be careful on initial power-up to monitor the quiescent current draw. I would guess it need not be more than a few mA or so, and definitely less than 40mA or so. This can be made adjustable if desired. <br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><b>Regards,<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>Dave<\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\"><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\" style=\"font-style: normal;\"><b>So, does anyone out there want to give this a try? You could be helping to save generations of homebrewers from the indignity of using an integrated circuit! <\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<div class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-comment-header\" style=\"background-color: white; color: #1d2228; font-family: \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;\"><cite class=\"yiv0746913201gmail-user\" style=\"font-style: normal;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p><b><br \/><\/b><\/cite><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently commented that I was building a discrete LM386 for a Direct Conversion receiver. I think I was exaggerating my project. In fact I just built a very ordinary push-pull amplifier using a 2N3904 and a 2N3906 as a complementary pair AF amplifier. This is part of an LM386, but there is much more &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.homebrewradio.us\/blog\/2022\/11\/21\/a-homebrew-lm386-does-anyone-want-to-build-it-help-save-us-all-from-the-indignity-of-ics\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A Homebrew LM386 &#8212; Does Anyone Want to Build It?  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